INTERVIEW WITH GREG SIMMONS
- PART 3 -
January 27, 2007  by Louise SaintOnge of MastersConnection, LLC
Transcribed by Bertha Rainen
COPYRIGHT © 2007 MastersConnection, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

MC: In your book there’s a chapter on manifestation and miracles and about becoming, being it. Being it and not just wanting it. There is the very popular movie that came out called The Secret. So many people seem to be hooking into that and being inspired by it. What do you have to say about that and how it compares to what Ramtha is teaching?

GREG: Well, it’s a branch of a great tree. The great tree is consciousness and energy creates reality. Quantum physics is a piece of that tree. The Secret is a piece of the physics of the tree. It is one of the branches. What does it say? Whatever your thoughts are creates the fabric of your life. That’s fundamental quantum physics. It’s popular because it was made in a very entertaining kind of media like What the Bleep. What the Bleep is the science behind The Secret’s philosophy because they didn’t give you the science about it.

MC: Right, the law of attraction.

GREG: Yeah, law of attraction. That’s a philosophical term. If you had said the Observer collapsing energy into viable, substantial reality, that’s the science of it. So they made a very entertaining, easy to swallow concept that’s one of the branches of the great tree of knowledge. It’s popular because it’s easy. It can be implemented without discipline. You can just start to rethink and observe your thoughts and change the way you think.

The problem with that is that people will swing from what they’re thinking to positive affirmations and declarations without being in the part of the brain that can accept that
new affirmation. So when somebody starts saying “I have always been a light to the world”, or “I have always been this”, that almost automatically gives you the exact opposite
reaction and experience in life because you are trying to overcome something by saying something and the power is in what you were trying to overcome.

I do a whole thing in my book on affirmations. I love The Secret because it’s going to touch a lot of people and it is going to be a finger pointing in a direction. But the direction must go to either science or to our school, which combines the philosophy like The Secret , the science like What the Bleep, with viable disciplines to give each participant a personal experience of that philosophy. That is where the school is so great in its teachings.
So The Secret is going to be a big hit. It is going to help, but there is a greater level of knowledge that people are going to have to go to in order to become magicians or to become transcendent beings. It is not going to happen from that movie.

MC: No, but it is going to open minds and raise questions.

GREG: I’m curious if they’ll ask the great questions: How do I evolve spiritually?
What is the process of being able to utilize this brain properly so I can consciously create reality on my own terms? How can I become a transcendent being? How can I defy death?
How can I, how can I, how can I?

MC: So that people have an idea of the kinds of things you are covering in the book here are some of the chapters: Theaters of Reality; Karma and Culture; Analogical Mind; Dark Night of the Soul; Miracles and Manifestation; Masters; Religious Leaders; Emotions; Wisdom; Affirmations; Gurus; Sex, Love, Rumors; Suicide and Death; Soul Mates; and Controlling the Weather. You have really covered some ground.

GREG: I covered some ground because, as I said, these people were asking questions that they needed to know the answer to because whatever they had heard before was not satisfying. So I had been beautifully trained by the Ram to answer questions because I was an absolutely passionate student in the school. I went to every single class. I engaged the disciplines. I had been prepared to be able to answer questions. I covered a lot of ground because people wanted a lot of information and that is what the book is about.

MC: What I notice in the book is that there are questions from people that you can tell they’ve been at this for a long time, and they are at the moment of the next breakthrough and need some information. There are those who are asking New Age questions. There are those that are very much in the beginning phases of it. So I think everyone is going to have an opportunity to see a part of themselves. We are all going to learn from that book, reading it more than one time.

GREG: Thank you. I think so. Yeah.

MC: There are a lot of references to many things. Certainly it’s main focus is on what you have learned through Ramtha.

GREG: The whole book is about pointing fingers to the school and to the message.
And I am one person who took advantage of what was available. There is a lot more I can take advantage of and so can everybody. But this is one person’s, just a very, very normal person, who found something that resonated with me, that I took advantage of to a
certain degree, and I am sharing that aspect of what I took advantage of.

MC: It is beautiful. It is really wonderful that you have done that. When you look back on your years in the school, what would you say has been one of the scariest moments. One certainly was when you were so sick, but I am talking about the disciplines and being at the school and all that long-time students have gone through.

GREG: I’ll tell you what it was. One of the most, well, I can’t say frightening, but one of the most deeply impactful events for me was when Kenny first read through the cards. I was so excited that he did it. I was in Italy at the time. They couriered me a video tape so I could show it to the students there and I watched it for the first time with the Italian students.
But it troubled me really, really deeply that I had not taken advantage of that level of opportunity myself. Here was just a nobody guy, beautiful, humble, but a nobody guy in
the school, who just does this miraculous breakthrough in the disciplines. He just rocked the whole school and catapulted it to a whole new level of expectation. But I was so deeply troubled that I had not done it myself. I looked at myself and I said, here I am a student in the school, a teacher in the school, and I had not yet carved out a time and a place for me to master the disciplines like he did. I was hurt, troubled and concerned that I hadn’t done that. I am still concerned to this day that I haven’t mastered something to that level. I keep saying to myself, I am going to keep cutting back. I am going to keep cutting back. I want to …

MC: Cutting back what?

GREG: Cutting back on all my duties, all my responsibilities, finding the time every day to become a master-on-command, to demonstrate any one of these disciplines. I am pretty good at FieldworkSM because I work on it most every day at school and every event, but
not to this level where he just absolutely rocked the school. I wanted to also be somebody that would have taken the time, the patience, the presence to do something like that.
I hadn’t and still haven’t to this day. That was one of the most troubling times for me,
one of the most exciting and troubling at the same time.

MC: It’s another aspect of your multidimensionality though, because here you have been an appointed teacher of the school, and the gift that you have brought to so many thousands of people around the world of your clarity and your enthusiasm and your passion and your understanding, that someone that might do well with the cards could never have done what you’ve done.

GREG: That’s true but that …But maybe that troubles him …

MC: Exactly.

GREG: … but what troubled me was something because I wanted to be able to do…

MC: Something more.

GREG: I want to be able to demonstrate what I’ve told those twenty thousand people they are capable of doing. I believe they are capable of it. Why? Because I have done most everything I’ve told them at some point, inconsistently, but I want to be able to sit down and say, “At this moment I am going to demonstrate what it is I said you can do.”
That’s my mastery in my disciplines now.

MC: So that has changed in terms of your relationship with the school, if you will, as far
as working and traveling and doing that, that you are shifting a little bit to focus more
on your …

GREG: I’ve asked to cut back on my traveling. I said I needed a break. My reasoning is
I want to be able to do what I told all those students they could do. I want to do it personally. So I am not in the big teaching schedule loop. I’m somebody they can use and I’ve said use me as you need me but I am not going back into full-time travel. I told JZ this the other day and she said, “You need a break. I’m glad you’re taking one.” But she said, “Soon I am sending you back out.” So this is my time to integrate what it is that I want to do in the disciplines on a more consistent basis. I want to be a teacher who can walk that talk. I have a thousand stories as you’ll find in my book, of what I have been able to manifest and I can do it like that. But I want to be the person who can stand up in front of that huge auditorium and lift off in front of them. Now I have earned the right to talk.

The school’s greatest message, in my opinion, is the students who can perform the outrageous because then it doesn’t matter if it’s 3-1/2 days, 4 days, 8 days as a Beginning Retreat. It only matters that the knowledge is being embraced by the student body and fabulous things are happening, which they are all the time.

I know, we are going to double our population with new students. At the end of 2008 we are going to have 20,000 current students in our school. That I know. That’s my walk. That’s how it has to be for me. It may not be that way for anybody else but in my little slice, that is how many people are going to be in this school. And it is going to continue in its momentum and its exponential growth because now is our time for this school.
JZ’s out and she’s teaching. The Ram is taking his special group. Those factions plus a few other opportunities that are coming our way now by big-time, mainstream media outlets that want to show the world about our school, is part of the package that is going to allow us to just explode upon the scene. So that is what’s happening. That’s what is going to come about. I know it is.

MC: There was a question in your book that was asked which has to do with emotions and how there was a contradiction. You talked earlier about the passion and the emotion, but this had to do – oh, this actually is kind of related to when we were talking about The Secret. On page 100 in your book it says “…combining focus with action to create outcomes. Why do we have to protest against things? Why not just focus on what you want?” There’s always been this place of, if I focus on that, and they say in The Secret, if you are focusing on the fight against war, the fight against this, the fight against that, you’re always fighting, then you are always going to be in a fight. How can you speak
about that regarding creation?

GREG: This is so simple. It is not what you say. It’s where you are in your brain when you are saying it that’s going to make all the difference in the world. If you are saying it and you are not in a deep level of mind, you are going to create almost the exact opposite of what it is you are saying because you are admitting that the thing that you are trying to overcome or say or protest against is so powerful, it’s the existing reality. So people who want to have peace because of the Iraq war, and they are always saying it from that part of their brain, are always going to be in conflict because conflict is what is their reality. They are trying to overcome it. The same person who goes to a deeper level of mind, either the mid brain or the lower cerebellum, they are not going to talk about the war in Iraq. They are going to talk about universal peace and that will then become the overriding reality in their mind and peace will then be their reality.

So it is not what you say, it’s from what part of the brain are you saying it from. One is to overcome something. The other parts of the brain accept it as its reality already because it doesn’t judge. It accepts. The part of our brain that is always going to be critical about what we say is the neocortex, which is what we use 99% of the time. It’s the disciplines that allow us to go to a deeper level of mind that accepts the new affirmation, the new declaration, without rejection, because that’s the nature of that part of the brain. That’s the nature of consciousness and energy at that deep level of mind. So that is the secret. The secret is not what you say but where are you saying it from in your brain. That’s the knowledge that’s in the school.

MC: It takes so long to go through those layers and layers of doubt and culture to the simplicity of it happening in a moment.

GREG: That’s the nature of the labyrinth. You have to go through those layers and you have to build a new mind because by the time you get to the end and you are successful, you have cleared out all of that culture, all of that conjecture, all of that objection, all of that conclusion, all of that prejudice. All of those things that are so much a part of the human experience must be cleared out to get to the center. The same in life.

MC: So now that you have finished the book …… in retrospect, is there more you want to say? Do you feel that you’ve really covered all the ground?

GREG: Well, I am still saying it, because I have a monthly newsletter for those who buy the book, called Physics of Change.

MC: Oh, fabulous.
GREG: It’s an e-newsletter and it comes out once a month. I am taking things that weren’t in the book and transcripts after the book was finished, and I am sharing two or three different questions and answers every month that I think are relevant. I’m talking a lot about global warming. I’m talking a lot about being prepared. I’m talking about the older and wiser group of people who are sixty-five and older, and what they can do for life extension and what they can do to keep their brain activated and working beautifully.

And I am talking about financial strategies, because gold and silver right now are prime to go off the charts just like the Ram predicted. Not only his prediction but every smart gold financial analyst I know says, “Get prepared,” because they are seeing the same things that happened in the seventies are now building up to this. What exponentially made gold and silver go then is going to go again.

But that’s how the ongoing of the book continues …Once a month I come out with those six or eight pages and people can stay tuned.

MC: That’s wonderful. Your website is www.mulaideguisepublishing.com. Are you still doing your live Q&A interviews with Beyond the Ordinary.net ?

GREG: Yes, I am still doing them once a month. Then I’ve got the concept of two children’s stories, stories that I’ve told my children that I am now working on with an illustrator.

MC: Wonderful. You’re busy.

GREG: I’m not busy though. I have time to do my walk many times a day so I don’t appear busy because I want to be in the neighborhood that these are easily managed. The point that it gets busy, then I know I am not in that right neighborhood and I have to go walk because I don’t want it to be a stress. I want it to be a natural creation of a creator, and that’s the way it is so far. I had time for you and me today.

MC: That’s right, and I am so happy about that.

GREG: So am I.

MC: Is there anything that I haven’t asked you that you would like to say about the book or about anything? We have an audience that this is going out to- students and friends as well, and because of the internet it just goes.

GREG: No, I know what I think is going to be kind of interesting and fun about the book is that this is a book where you can send it to a friend. It’s articulate to a certain degree. As you said, it’s simply written. It’s what I have learned and what we have learned as students, over, you know, 20-25 years. It’s written so that people who aren’t familiar with the school can get an idea of what it is that we are doing in the school from a student’s perspective, a simple person’s perspective. I think that that is going to be its greatest benefit. In addition, it’s going to be a nice piece of review for students who are in school and some knowledge that sometimes when you hear it from a different person, it clicks.

MC: Right. You just talked about the preparedness thing. That certainly was a focus of Ram’s New Year’s Eve talk.

GREG: Listen to this. It wasn’t just that the Ram has made a lot of predictions. Most have come true, if not all, but on a different timeline sometimes, than we expect. But there is such collaboration in the world with what he said.

You have Pat Robertson who is an evangelist, who goes on retreat every year in December and God talks to him, and he gets to come back and tell you what God said. He said exactly what the Ram has said; and then we have End View, which is Barbara Walters and Rosie O’Donnell, the four-women panel that pokes fun at everything and makes these outrageous statements, they talked again, about this particular scenario.

When you have that diverse of a faction of people agreeing upon a potential outcome for this year, you know it is embedded in the fabric of society. So that’s why I am talking about preparedness because it’s just happening in too many factions and in too many places and the collective will collapse that reality. Being prepared and knowing what this can do will save everybody’s life that is prepared. And those who aren’t will be less likely to survive it.

MC: It’s like the Ram said, until you can manifest bread in your hand you’d better stock your cabinets and be prepared.

GREG: Absolutely. And even after you have it fully stocked, because there are going to be people who are going to need to eat.

MC: That’s right and something, too, about the school is that there is such a growing up and there is a maturing and so many ideas that we had as naïve people, whatever you want to call it, when, in fact, it is really about growing up.

GREG: Growing up and taking responsibility for what is, so that you can prevent what will be. Prevention is 99% of what will alleviate the circumstance, because prevention means that it is not going to have an impact on you, so there is no real value for you. However, it will happen to everybody else because it is runners to the max and the world is getting ready to go into enormous chaos. I am at peace with that. I really am – totally.

Our job is to disseminate information that can help people, and to point fingers to where the message came from and to give them, because people ask me, “Well, gosh, it’s so late. What can I do?” I say you have two things. You need to start storing your food and you better learn how to create reality. Those two things as a combination are absolutely the greatest preventative you can imagine.

MC: Creating reality and storing food.

GREG: Yeah, and you’ve got it all.

MC: Beautiful. A perfect place to close for now....